Comments on: What makes effective Lean Leaders?

By: ??????????

?????????? — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:09:25 +0000

How do I get into a money society like Japan created to meet all money and financial needs?

By: qamanager

qamanager — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:49:05 +0000

I agree entirely.

Leadership is the art of getting someone else to do something you want done because he wants to do it.
Dwight Eisenhower

By: shaun sayers

shaun sayers — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:04:12 +0000

Here's a controversial statement for you Rob (which I happen to fully believe in, by the way)

Management development training sometimes works, leadership development training doesn't

By: qamanager

qamanager — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:38:46 +0000

Good points there Shaun. Read the blog posts I reference in this post, you may change your mind? Hitler and Star Trek in one post, great!

By: Shaun Sayers

Shaun Sayers — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:47:24 +0000

Don't agree Rob. I think there are differences. For example, a leader requires followers, a manager only requires a degree of co-operation (coupled with various organisational attributes that "leaders" don't necessarily need)

Hitler, for example, for all his many faults and flaws, did secure a sizeable following but, by all accounts, directly organised very little in a hands on way. He was apparently quite a crap manager. It's Picard and Reicher for me, and there's a real practical difference. This is accutely demonstrated in the political arena when it is commonplace for competent organisers to find themselves elevated to a "leadership" role – only to discover that people are disinclined to follow

Manager is a role that can be awarded, but "leader" is a title that can only be truly bestowed by followers. What I mean by that is that a person carrying the title of "leader" is not actually a leader if people ain't following

Now continuous vs continual improvement on the other hand …

By: qamanager

qamanager — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:35:54 +0000

Over the years the terms "management" and "leadership" have, in the organisational context, been used both as synonyms and with clearly differentiated meanings. Debate is fairly common about whether the use of these terms should be restricted, and generally reflects an awareness of the distinction made by Burns (1978) between "transactional" leadership (characterised by eg emphasis on procedures, contingent reward, management by exception) and "transformational" leadership (characterised by eg charisma, personal relationships, creativity). That those two adjectives are in fact used equally well with the noun "management" as with the noun "leadership" indicates that there is such a messy overlap between the two in academic practice that attempts to pontificate about their differences are largely a waste of time.

By: Shaun Sayers

Shaun Sayers — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:55:15 +0000

Is he a leader or is he a manager? I'm not sure

They are not the same thing, neither is "manager" a dirty word