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		<title>By: Latin Joe</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-4351</link>
		<dc:creator>Latin Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize a lot of what I&#039;m reading lately has to do with the current financial crisis, but your post is another story :) thank you for sharing this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize a lot of what I&#8217;m reading lately has to do with the current financial crisis, but your post is another story <img src='http://learnsigma.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  thank you for sharing this!</p>
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		<title>By: anandg</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-1689</link>
		<dc:creator>anandg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Zero Defect or Zero Tolerance&#039;&quot;is an impossiable task, defects are bound to come.&quot;8D&quot; is a problem solving process that helps to get defect free porducts. In which whole team is involved in finding the defect and closing the issue with a celebration. In this, customers are happy to get Quality Products and crew is motiveted to dobetter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Zero Defect or Zero Tolerance&#39;&#8221;is an impossiable task, defects are bound to come.&#8221;8D&#8221; is a problem solving process that helps to get defect free porducts. In which whole team is involved in finding the defect and closing the issue with a celebration. In this, customers are happy to get Quality Products and crew is motiveted to dobetter.</p>
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		<title>By: Tijuana Prostitute</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-1473</link>
		<dc:creator>Tijuana Prostitute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Tijuana factory I work in, we are implementing Six Sigma and my feeling is that if no defects are found (and thus improvement impossible), the process itself has failed.  It seems &quot;zero defect&quot; people miss the point entirely!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Tijuana factory I work in, we are implementing Six Sigma and my feeling is that if no defects are found (and thus improvement impossible), the process itself has failed.  It seems &#8220;zero defect&#8221; people miss the point entirely!</p>
<p>Great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Tijuana Prostitute</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-1402</link>
		<dc:creator>Tijuana Prostitute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Tijuana factory I work in, we are implementing Six Sigma and my feeling is that if no defects are found (and thus improvement impossible), the process itself has failed.  It seems &quot;zero defect&quot; people miss the point entirely!

Great article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Tijuana factory I work in, we are implementing Six Sigma and my feeling is that if no defects are found (and thus improvement impossible), the process itself has failed.  It seems &#8220;zero defect&#8221; people miss the point entirely!</p>
<p>Great article.</p>
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		<title>By: Zero Defects - again! &#124; learnsigma</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Zero Defects - again! &#124; learnsigma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comment to this post: We are Hyundai Translead a trailer manufacturer located in Tijuana Mexico. This year third quarter [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] comment to this post: We are Hyundai Translead a trailer manufacturer located in Tijuana Mexico. This year third quarter [...]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refer you to this excellent page by John Hunter: &lt;a href=&quot;http://curiouscat.com/deming/zerodefects.cfm&quot;&gt;http://curiouscat.com/deming/zerodefects.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;or this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.isixsigma.com/library/content/c060306a.asp&quot;&gt;http://www.isixsigma.com/library/content/c06030...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The latter article makes the point:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since the slogan zero defects implies immediate compliance to a defect-free standard, it may not leave time for the continuous improvement process to occur. In fact, it may even slow down the continuous improvement process because of the massive resources that inspected-in quality entails.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Zero defects is a message that can carry with it confusion and misinterpretation, mixed with technical impracticality. It may be appropriate that the idea of zero defects be replaced with a policy of &quot;zero escapes,&quot; since the latter has limited interpretation. As a company is doing all it can to improve the product and business using continuous improvement techniques, it also needs to consider what it can do to prevent a random, low-level defect from reaching the final customer. In this regard, zero escapes of defects may be a complimentary activity to continuous improvement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other words forget zero defects, focus on improving continually!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refer you to this excellent page by John Hunter: <a href="http://curiouscat.com/deming/zerodefects.cfm">http://curiouscat.com/deming/zerodefects.cfm</a></p>
<p>or this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.isixsigma.com/library/content/c060306a.asp"></a><a href="http://www.isixsigma.com/library/content/c06030..">http://www.isixsigma.com/library/content/c06030..</a>.</p>
<p>The latter article makes the point:</p>
<p>Since the slogan zero defects implies immediate compliance to a defect-free standard, it may not leave time for the continuous improvement process to occur. In fact, it may even slow down the continuous improvement process because of the massive resources that inspected-in quality entails.</p>
<p>Zero defects is a message that can carry with it confusion and misinterpretation, mixed with technical impracticality. It may be appropriate that the idea of zero defects be replaced with a policy of &#8220;zero escapes,&#8221; since the latter has limited interpretation. As a company is doing all it can to improve the product and business using continuous improvement techniques, it also needs to consider what it can do to prevent a random, low-level defect from reaching the final customer. In this regard, zero escapes of defects may be a complimentary activity to continuous improvement.</p>
<p>In other words forget zero defects, focus on improving continually!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refer you to this excellent page by John Hunter: http://curiouscat.com/deming/zerodefects.cfm

or this:

http://www.isixsigma.com/library/content/c060306a.asp

The latter article makes the point:

Since the slogan zero defects implies immediate compliance to a defect-free standard, it may not leave time for the continuous improvement process to occur. In fact, it may even slow down the continuous improvement process because of the massive resources that inspected-in quality entails.

Zero defects is a message that can carry with it confusion and misinterpretation, mixed with technical impracticality. It may be appropriate that the idea of zero defects be replaced with a policy of &quot;zero escapes,&quot; since the latter has limited interpretation. As a company is doing all it can to improve the product and business using continuous improvement techniques, it also needs to consider what it can do to prevent a random, low-level defect from reaching the final customer. In this regard, zero escapes of defects may be a complimentary activity to continuous improvement.

In other words forget zero defects, focus on improving continually!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refer you to this excellent page by John Hunter: <a href="http://curiouscat.com/deming/zerodefects.cfm">http://curiouscat.com/deming/zerodefects.cfm</a></p>
<p>or this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.isixsigma.com/library/content/c060306a.asp">http://www.isixsigma.com/library/content/c060306a.asp</a></p>
<p>The latter article makes the point:</p>
<p>Since the slogan zero defects implies immediate compliance to a defect-free standard, it may not leave time for the continuous improvement process to occur. In fact, it may even slow down the continuous improvement process because of the massive resources that inspected-in quality entails.</p>
<p>Zero defects is a message that can carry with it confusion and misinterpretation, mixed with technical impracticality. It may be appropriate that the idea of zero defects be replaced with a policy of &#8220;zero escapes,&#8221; since the latter has limited interpretation. As a company is doing all it can to improve the product and business using continuous improvement techniques, it also needs to consider what it can do to prevent a random, low-level defect from reaching the final customer. In this regard, zero escapes of defects may be a complimentary activity to continuous improvement.</p>
<p>In other words forget zero defects, focus on improving continually!</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco J Gutierrez</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-1471</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco J Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry,&lt;br&gt;I did give you a wrong e-mail on my previous mail.&lt;br&gt;We are Hyundai Translead a trailer manufacturer located in Tijuana Mexico. This year third quarter have been though for our business and that&#039;s why our General Manager have requested QC department (I&#039;m QC manager) to look a program to drive defects to &quot;zero&quot;. Reading your comments I wonder if you can give me some directions for the type of steps I should follow in order to implement such a program like &quot;zer defects&quot;.&lt;br&gt;I will appreciate your kind attention to this matter.&lt;br&gt;Thanks&lt;br&gt;F. Gutierrez&lt;br&gt;QC Manager &amp; QMS administrator&lt;br&gt;Hyundai Translead&lt;br&gt;Tijuana Plants 1, 2 and 3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry,<br />I did give you a wrong e-mail on my previous mail.<br />We are Hyundai Translead a trailer manufacturer located in Tijuana Mexico. This year third quarter have been though for our business and that&#39;s why our General Manager have requested QC department (I&#39;m QC manager) to look a program to drive defects to &#8220;zero&#8221;. Reading your comments I wonder if you can give me some directions for the type of steps I should follow in order to implement such a program like &#8220;zer defects&#8221;.<br />I will appreciate your kind attention to this matter.<br />Thanks<br />F. Gutierrez<br />QC Manager &amp; QMS administrator<br />Hyundai Translead<br />Tijuana Plants 1, 2 and 3</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco J Gutierrez</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-1470</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco J Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our General Manager is pushing our QC department to look for  a zero defects program. I wonder what steps (training tools) should be taken to achieve this goal. May you give me some direction on what I should do to make a proposal plan for our GM?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our General Manager is pushing our QC department to look for  a zero defects program. I wonder what steps (training tools) should be taken to achieve this goal. May you give me some direction on what I should do to make a proposal plan for our GM?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco J Gutierrez</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco J Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry,
I did give you a wrong e-mail on my previous mail.
We are Hyundai Translead a trailer manufacturer located in Tijuana Mexico. This year third quarter have been though for our business and that&#039;s why our General Manager have requested QC department (I&#039;m QC manager) to look a program to drive defects to &quot;zero&quot;. Reading your comments I wonder if you can give me some directions for the type of steps I should follow in order to implement such a program like &quot;zer defects&quot;.
I will appreciate your kind attention to this matter.
Thanks
F. Gutierrez
QC Manager &amp; QMS administrator
Hyundai Translead
Tijuana Plants 1, 2 and 3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry,<br />
I did give you a wrong e-mail on my previous mail.<br />
We are Hyundai Translead a trailer manufacturer located in Tijuana Mexico. This year third quarter have been though for our business and that&#8217;s why our General Manager have requested QC department (I&#8217;m QC manager) to look a program to drive defects to &#8220;zero&#8221;. Reading your comments I wonder if you can give me some directions for the type of steps I should follow in order to implement such a program like &#8220;zer defects&#8221;.<br />
I will appreciate your kind attention to this matter.<br />
Thanks<br />
F. Gutierrez<br />
QC Manager &amp; QMS administrator<br />
Hyundai Translead<br />
Tijuana Plants 1, 2 and 3</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco J Gutierrez</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco J Gutierrez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our General Manager is pushing our QC department to look for  a zero defects program. I wonder what steps (training tools) should be taken to achieve this goal. May you give me some direction on what I should do to make a proposal plan for our GM?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our General Manager is pushing our QC department to look for  a zero defects program. I wonder what steps (training tools) should be taken to achieve this goal. May you give me some direction on what I should do to make a proposal plan for our GM?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: curiouscat</title>
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		<dc:creator>curiouscat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dr. Deming who said &quot;No defects, no jobs. Absence of defects does not necessarily build business... Something more is required&quot; - on page 10 of the New Economics.  I discuss some more on this in &lt;a href=&quot;http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/01/22/zero-defects/&quot;&gt;Zero Defects&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dr. Deming who said &#8220;No defects, no jobs. Absence of defects does not necessarily build business&#8230; Something more is required&#8221; &#8211; on page 10 of the New Economics.  I discuss some more on this in <a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/01/22/zero-defects/">Zero Defects</a></p>
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		<title>By: curiouscat</title>
		<link>http://learnsigma.com/the-fallacy-of-zero-defects/comment-page-1/#comment-1469</link>
		<dc:creator>curiouscat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dr. Deming who said &quot;No defects, no jobs. Absence of defects does not necessarily build business... Something more is required&quot; - on page 10 of the New Economics.  I discuss some more on this in &lt;a href=&quot;http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/01/22/zero-defects/&quot;&gt;Zero Defects&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dr. Deming who said &#8220;No defects, no jobs. Absence of defects does not necessarily build business&#8230; Something more is required&#8221; &#8211; on page 10 of the New Economics.  I discuss some more on this in <a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/01/22/zero-defects/">Zero Defects</a></p>
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